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Message de Miguel ClÃ¡udio - Envoyé le 30 Jan 21:52

Hi. Did any of you already saw this photo ? http://www.ccygnus.nl/images/nearmiss.jpg Any comment ? you can read all about it here :http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/archive/archive/tm_objectid=16639684%26method=full%26siteid=62484-name_page.html
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Message de nozem - Envoyé le 30 Jan 22:26

Pfff when I see this it looks close,but if you look at the aircraft types you can see the difference. The DHL looks to me its a B737 and the JAL like a A330 But stil this is not normal to me Greetz Ton AIRFLEETS.NET STAFF PHOTO SCREENER
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Message de GUZZIPETE - Envoyé le 01 Feb 19:59

THE DHL WAS A A300 AND THE JAL WAS A 777 I THINK !!! GUZZIPETE
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Message de nozem - Envoyé le 01 Feb 20:39

Oke maybe the DHL was an A300 But JAL would have the first 777 with winglets...... AIRFLEETS.NET STAFF PHOTO SCREENER
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Message de Miguel ClÃ¡udio - Envoyé le 02 Feb 10:01

Sorry nozem but JAL hasn't A330's on the fleet. As far as I remember JAL never had any Airbus on the fleet. But it's quite easy to understand the confusion. When we use lots of glass to photograph sometimes things look very different, and in fact that was what it made aircrafts look closer than in fact they are. There is something called TCAS in other words the Traffic Collision Avoidance System which means that both pilots would have been warned by the equipment if something wrong was happening, not to mention of course the ATC which was monitoring all the situation.( you can read more about the TCAS following the link http://www.aerowinx.de/html/tcas.html ) Neverthless, that was a unique photo opportunity, and to those that don't know much about aviation, perhaps a big scare.
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Message de nozem - Envoyé le 02 Feb 13:03

Yes you're right about the A330's and only JAL domestic has som A300's flying around.... I could have know that,looking in the database.... And about that TCAS I can remember me a air to air collision above Switserland that the TCAS and the ATC said something different and that made them collide(a rusian TU154 and a A300 from DHL). but stil with the technology from nowadays they can come close to eachother and still having a save distance allthough some people can see it like it was indeed very close.... Ton AIRFLEETS.NET STAFF PHOTO SCREENER
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Message de Miguel ClÃ¡udio - Envoyé le 02 Feb 16:40

Just in case you want to read a bit more about the Überlingen accident...on the link you have the final report - pdf file- http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~johnson/Eurocontrol/Ueberlingen/Ueberlingen_Final_Report.PDF
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Message de treasurehunt - Envoyé le 02 Feb 20:14

Judging by the looks of the JAL aircraft it appears to be a 777-300ER because they have raked wingtips compared to other models of 777's .
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Message de Dragonman - Envoyé le 03 Feb 23:47

The official line was that they were the required 1,000 feet apart, but as the photograph was taken from below it gives the impression that they were very close.
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Message de airbuseric - Envoyé le 05 Feb 13:34

For everybodies info; flight involved were JL401 NRT-LHR by B777-300ER and BCS... from AMS-LHR (opf. DHL) Rgds Eric AIRFLEETS.NET STAFF PHOTO SCREENER
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Message de B772LR - Envoyé le 06 Feb 7:02

Had read about this at another airliner forum. The planes were not that close. It's the camera angle wich causes the illusion. airbuseric is right about the planes involved. Think that the journalist wanted to create a sensational news......................
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