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Message de Mrtnw - Envoyé le 12 Feb 6:20 |
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Does anyone have an idea why the major LCC in Europe and the US use different models out of the 737 family? WN with the 737, FR with the 738?
The main difference seems to be the price and capacity.
You pay a few dollars more, but you can take over 25% more passengers on board with the 738.
The range of both types allow for flights across the European and North American continents.
The 700 might be more fuel efficient (the same amount of fuel gives you more range), but the extra seats of the 738 will generate extra income which will also pay of over the life of the plane...
Is it to generate higher load factors? Is it to lower cost per seat? Or is it that the 730 first entered into service 3 months later and WN couldn't wait for that?
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Message de Blitz - Envoyé le 12 Feb 11:33 |
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Message de EI-DUB - Envoyé le 12 Feb 14:29 |
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I think I also remember hearing that another reason that WN chose the -700 was that due to the lower number of passengers it allowed them have one less cabin crew on board versus the -800 which helps keep costs down i suppose!!!
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Message de Mrtnw - Envoyé le 13 Feb 1:13 |
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Blitz, having a mix of both makes sense to me as you can differentiate per route, use the -700 for the thinner ones, the rest with -800. I can also imagine using 1 type simplifies the planning.
EI-DUB, would 1 less crew outweight 40 extra pax?
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Message de FLX - Envoyé le 21 Feb 18:40 |
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Mrtnw:
1 less crew may not outweight 40 extra pax. But much lower landing+other airport fees due to lower aircraft weight and quicker turnaround(40 less pax to board/disembark) times may - key considerations for any successful LCC op. Also, if U're in a mkt environment(e.g. U.S.) where many of your competitors are also powerful LCCs, landing slots are limited(Even in 2ndary airports) and mkt is saturated, U want to hold on to/expand your frequencies(Keep same or even reduce capacity per flight) instead of decreasing frequencies(Increase capacity per flight) by upsizing equipment. For most parts of Europe, that's not really Ryanair's mkt environment as it nearly dominates the LCC arena(EasyJet is the only challenger I can think of with similar clout) and many 2ndary airports it serve are still quiet.
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Message de RJ1385 - Envoyé le 08 Mar 16:43 |
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more pax = more weight = more fuel burn = more money
maybe the 700 is more economical for the number of people flying point to point. the non-lcc seem to like the 800 and 900s for running pax in and out of hubs.
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Message de ualtim - Envoyé le 09 Mar 11:57 |
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There are many reasons to choose a -700 over a -800. As already mentioned, lower operating costs and fees due to a lower landing weight, but a big one may be pilot pay. Depending on the airline's contract with its pilots, the extra # of seats and/or the increased weight may boost the pilots into the next highest pay scale level. Unless your filling the extra seats on every flight to offset all the additional costs, it may not be worth it for the airline. Additonally, the -700 allows a LCC to be more flexible on its routes if it changes routes seasonally. You may have a high load factor in one season, but a lower one in another season so the lower costs/seats of the -700 may be more cost effective and the acquistion costs are lower eventually allowing that money to be spent on additional aircraft to run increased frequencies where needed.
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Message de - Envoyé le 11 Mar 0:06 |
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Message de captain bill - Envoyé le 11 Mar 9:45 |
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