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Message de KiwiRob - Envoyé le 17 Jun 9:13 |
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Hi guys,
Should poor quality photos of important or unique aircraft be allowed on the site, or should airfleets keep standards high by by not accepting them.
I believe airfleets should aspire to the same quality levels as airliners.net. This site is great, and I think better than airliners especially in the aircraft information supplied.
I'd like to hear other photographers points of view.
Cheers
Rob
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Message de Wembers2 - Envoyé le 18 Jun 16:01 |
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Hi Rob and fellow Airfleeters,
Is it better to have a slightly lower quality shot than none at all? Airfleets already rejects some shots. They've rejected a few of mine but have accepted most of them. I don't really want to spend £1000 on a camera just so that Airliners.net will accept them.
I normally upload shots if there aren't any of that aircraft already or the shot is completely different from those on already.
My most popular shot is of VT-AXB which I know Airliners would have rejected. If Airfleets use the same standard then only those with expensive cameras will be accepted. I am quite happy with my camera (Finepix S5500) and I hope this database will contine to accept my pics.
Bob Holland
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Message de KiwiRob - Envoyé le 18 Jun 21:03 |
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Hi Bob,
There is nothing wrong with any of your images, they are ok by me, the S5500 is a very good digicam capable of taking some pretty impressive shots. What I'm getting at are some photo's that were uploaded recently of a unique aircraft that were appaling and should never have been allowed on the site, to allow such poor quality photos lowers the overall standards of the database.
Cheers
Rob
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Message de pvicta - Envoyé le 20 Jun 10:46 |
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Rob
I think the quality of the photos should be kept, but I also believe that where the photos are 'old' some concessions could be made. You are not going to be able to get a better photo of a livery or aircraft if it flew 10 years ago, and is no longer flying or painted in that particular livery.
But if it's new, rushing to get it put on, when it's going to be around for a while, and getting bad quality should not be allowed.
I have a whole swag of photos that I have been taking for the last 20 years or so, some are good, some are mediocre, and some are just outright bad. But for my own satisfaction, I go for 'something is better than nothing', and will atempt to get a better shot next time, but I wouldn't inflict that on anyone else.
For the record, I think the quality of the photos on this site is pretty good, and now I have a new camera, I can't wait to get out, get some photos and put them on, and maybe have them accepted
Anyway, that's what I think 
Paul
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Message de TRIPLESEVEN - Envoyé le 21 Jun 17:48 |
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Rob,
I think that for older shots, the quality isn't so important, most of the older spotters where using slides in those days. And everyone knows that making a digital image of a slide reduces the quality. Accepting older pics is more important than the quality. And I agree with going for something than nothing.
Jan Remco
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Message de Wembers2 - Envoyé le 21 Jun 21:32 |
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Hi again,
I think we all agree then, well those that have bothered to contribute anyway that older shots should be given more leeway due to their scarcity value over more modern shots.
I am not a great fan of shots of undercarriages or engines but others obviously are. Am also not a fan of shots that do not show which particular aircraft it is. I use as an example a shot of the tail of the latest Air Tahiti Nui A340 that I guess is a nice shot of a tail but it could be any of the 5 they now have.
To test out the theory of older shots, I have a pic of 737 EP-AGA in old colours that I have not seen anywhere else. It is currently on http://myaviation.net/?pid=00032868 and I was wondering if I should upload it to Airfleets. It was taken early in the morning and was facing south so I was on to a hiding but it was then (and still is) a rare beast.
Let me know what you think. I will not be (too) offended if you're not keen.
Best wishes.
Bob Holland
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Message de 757Lad - Envoyé le 22 Jun 22:43 |
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To be honest, those people who are not as experienced with photography and cannot afford a top class camera like myself should be able to put photos up and have them displayed. These guys are right, photos are better than none at all. My photos may not be that good but hell fire, i wish that they would get accepted to at least give me a bit of confidence in what i do.
Just my 2p 
John
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Message de pvicta - Envoyé le 22 Jun 4:25 |
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Hi all,
I think what you are all trying to say is that this is a site created and catering for enthusiasts, and as such should be treated that way, and not as an elite club? 
I don't know about the rest of you, but I get great enjoyment out of being able to look through the listings, and find that the 737 I took a photo of in 1988 is still flying, after going through different guises.
And again, the enjoyment from seeing the multitudes of different liveries around the world is where I get my inspiration for where to go on my holidays.
And like 757Lad, I'd be happy to get one accepted. (I have only posted one, it was taken 9 years ago, and there are no other pictures of it, in either the special livery or it's more 'natural' one. I thought it was pretty good, but...). I'm currently looking for another 'special' to post)
Paul
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Message de KiwiRob - Envoyé le 22 Jun 6:13 |
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Hi guys,
All really good points. I have no problem with old shots of aircraft that are no longer around or with older liveries on them, what I am objecting too is poor quality shots of brandnew aircraft that were only uploaded because the plane is at the moment unique. When I asked the moderator about this his reply was this photos was accepted, because it was F-WWOW, if it was another aircraft, these photos should have been refused . There shouldn't be any exceptions to the rules, it's not fair on the rest of us.
Cheers
Rob
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Message de daz - Envoyé le 02 Jul 18:29 |
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i get pissed off with my photo's coming back saying they r not of quality, or criteria,, they r all in good quality and r of the aircraft that is what we want to c,,, yes???
i only have a few photo's on this site and all the others i try to put on all get rejected,,
i used to use a cannon powershot A10 i now use a Olypus C740, both very good camera's............will i be putting more photo's on this site?? i do not know,, maybe not...
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Message de AZE - Envoyé le 02 Jul 18:54 |
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Message de KiwiRob - Envoyé le 04 Jul 6:36 |
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Hi Aze,
I think all of the photos DAZ took should be removed they are terrible, sorry Daz, not all your fault but they don't measure up. Most look like they were taken behind glass which gives really bad reflactions.
Cheers
Rob
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Message de Wembers2 - Envoyé le 04 Jul 10:22 |
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Guys,
Let's not over-do the criticism here. All you're going to do is alienate people who aren't up to the high standard of certain members. Let's try and help them out with some positive feedback rather than just slagging them down.
A good editing program is important although I'm sure everyone can crop their pictures so the secret is to zoom out a little bit more than usual, get the whole plane in and then crop it.
The management decide what THEY want to accept so we're going to have to leave it at that.
Bob Holland
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Message de 757Lad - Envoyé le 04 Jul 14:57 |
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Message de daz - Envoyé le 05 Jul 16:48 |
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Message de Miguel Claudio - Envoyé le 05 Jul 20:06 |
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Hello.
If you don't mind, I would like to give my opinion.
Even though I don't have yet as much experience as I wanted to have as an aviation photographer, one thing I have already learned.
It is very important to know how to edit your images.
Sometimes it's easy to compare the photos on airfleets.net with images on other websites, and I don't think that such comparison is totally fair. The projects are clearly different, and will eventually go in different directions, with the help of everybody that likes photography and likes to share their images, but still, I think that there are details that can be understood by giving more attention to photos that are accepted on websites that have the hits by photography as one of the most important things. All those images have been edited. There are no miracles, and you might even have a 1billion euros camera. If you don't know how to edit the photos it's worthless.
What I think uploaders that have their photos rejected must understand is that the screeners aren't rejecting the photographer, but the photo. And you might think that it is cruel to reject a photo, but please understand it this way. It's better someone tells you that you must try a bit harder to improve your skills, than to have someone that lies to you, and that by accepting all your images makes you think you are the best, while in fact you still have a long way to improve your skills.
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Message de EZEIZA - Envoyé le 13 Jul 4:57 |
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Well, I guess the only reason why my pic was accepted was because it was rare (won't be rare in a short time ;) )
It is a shot of the new airline LAN Argentina, and besides my camera being from a few centuries ago the conditions were terrible. it was very dark and I had to lighten it up by photoshop, something that is a real problem for me since I never used photoshop before. For all this is why I guess my pic was accepted here. Let me know what you think :)
regards 
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Message de KiwiRob - Envoyé le 13 Jul 7:39 |
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Message de Miguel Claudio - Envoyé le 13 Jul 13:37 |
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Hola Ezeiza. Both photos are very good. Both are very well edited, and interesting. Good photos are always welcome. Keep on sharing with us, those rare aircrafts (well...at least for us outside the country of las Pampas)
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Message de EZEIZA - Envoyé le 13 Jul 18:29 |
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Message de Wembers2 - Envoyé le 14 Jul 13:20 |
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Message de CREW - Envoyé le 14 Jul 15:22 |
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Message de Wembers2 - Envoyé le 14 Jul 18:33 |
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Message de KiwiRob - Envoyé le 14 Jul 18:40 |
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Message de stewart - Envoyé le 14 Jul 19:19 |
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As a guilty party having successfully submitted pictures of GLA, PIK and LHR in the past few days I was encouraged by the picture that someone else submitted of AMS. In the case of my LHR T4 picture you can see most of the stands full, and the southern end of the cross (thrid) runway.
Stewart
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Message de Wembers2 - Envoyé le 15 Jul 12:29 |
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Stewart,
I wasn't suggesting that the quality of your picture was the problem, just the subject matter. Your shot of T4 at LHR is quite interesting but surely there are other sites that would be more appropriate.
It was my understanding that this was a site for individual histories of aircraft supported by photos (of a suitable quality) and not of airports.
This is an excellent site and I now rest my case.
All the best, Bob
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