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  Message de EI-DUB - Envoyé le 12 Apr 8:16  
 
Michael O'Leary yesterday announced that Ryanair plan to set up a longhaul operation, that would act independently of Ryanair.

They plan to buy up to 50 787/A350. All the details are in the article below

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2007/04/11/213208/ryanair-boss-michael-oleary-plans-launch-of-transatlantic-no-frills-airline-with-fleet-of-50.html

If you read all the way down there are a few worrying statement regarding what they intend to do to Aer Lingus' long haul operation should the takeover go through.

I would love to hear your thoughts.

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  Message de Skid Kid - Envoyé le 12 Apr 17:30  
 
Maybe on this side of the pond one of their partners could be SKB.

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  Message de Flying.Dutchman - Envoyé le 21 Apr 15:27  
 
I don't know what to think of that. I mean I could hardly endure a short-haul flight by Ryanair, so I don't think that they will be that successful on long-hauls.

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  Message de SJR - Envoyé le 21 Apr 20:36  
 
Trans-Atlantic for as little a £12. The outlook is very bleak indeed for passengers and alreadly struggling airlines who just will not be able to compete with that. Its just another way for Ryanair to ruin travel and another step to O Leary's ultimate world domination of the airline industry.

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  Message de EI-DUB - Envoyé le 21 Apr 21:22  
 
ye....£12 PLUS all the taxes and charges, and i doubt that would be the standard fare, that i'm sure is a promotional, headline grabbing fare.

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  Message de SJR - Envoyé le 22 Apr 18:32  
 
Note that i put and i quote  as little as . I am aware of the extra charges but i still believe that low fare airlines only work on short haul flights, otherwise there would be little need for the proper airlines

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  Message de Spot planes - Envoyé le 23 Apr 1:08  
 
I completely agree with SJR. Passengers need in long haul is completely different form thse in short haul.

I won't even try Ryanair on short haul especially they fly to in the middle of nowhere airports.

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  Message de EI-DUB - Envoyé le 23 Apr 16:27  
 
SJR, apologies, i was not implying that you were unaware of taxes and charges and i'm sorry for coming accross that way.

I fully agree with you. the reason there are no major long haul, low cost airlines is that the low cost model is suited to flights of a shorter duration.

And as has been said, passengers needs are obviously greater on long haul. I certainly wouldn't want to have to pay for everything i needed on a 8+ hour flight, on top of the standard fare.

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  Message de Werkur737 - Envoyé le 23 Apr 20:26  
 
I also agree, low cost airlines only works on sort haul routes.
Long haul needs, have reasons to a better inflight service and if have to pay for everything, is better a standard fare, like you said EI-DUB.

Some airlines here in US, like Frontier and Southwest or even Jetblue, in this low cost model are not able to transatlantic flights. their fare are very competitive and the service is fair, but i bet on standard fare model, no paying for everything consumed inflight, to long haul model of flying.
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  Message de SJR - Envoyé le 24 Apr 16:20  
 
No worries i was just making my earlier comment more clear. I see your point but never actually put anything in my own comment so its my bad

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  Message de Trevor - Envoyé le 24 Apr 16:25  
 
Dont be mislead by the price. Remember it is fairs starting at GBP 12.00 which does not mean ALL fairs on a given flight will be at GBP 12.00 One-Way + taxes. They will be a limited amount of seats available at this price. Also in the article he mentions a two class configeration, a business class which could be compared to the likes of Virgin and an economy. A business class would not be price at GBP 12.00 one-way + taxes.

So as of right now it is all talk about what the future MIGHT hold. We all know between now and the 2010 - 2015 a lot can happen. It will also be interesting to see what transpires from the Aer Lingus / JetBlue code shares. Also what about other carriers ? Who is to say that the likes of Easyjet or Westjet will  NEVER  venture into trans-Altantic ?

From the past we had Sir. Freddie Laker's  SkyTrain  which was the true and original pioneer cheap trans-Atlantic flights, but way ahead of its time and ill prepared for the ruthless double standards and lack of ethics of the day.

Whether you like O'Leary or not, he is a true pioneer of the 21st century and his airline Ryanair has what it needs where it counts, they are profitable !

The only part of O'Leary's draft proposal that I would question is no interline, but then there is ample time for that to change. For me it seems crazy whith such a huge and growing European empire, if you are going to start trans-Atlantic operations from selected European hubs, why not interline ?

all the best, Trevor

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  Message de Werkur737 - Envoyé le 24 Apr 19:44  
 
I think maybe Westjet will explore more Caribbean markets like Cayman for exemple. To expand to Europe, they might to change its focus, and have to compete with Zoom because i think they will not explore ACAs market share if they will go to Europe.

To Easyjet, i see the north of Africa, like Egypt and Tunisia for exemple, as its next markets profitable, and then possible to Canarias and Ibiza.

That's what i think for Westjet and Easyjet.

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  Message de speedbird9468 - Envoyé le 25 Apr 1:06  
 
I know Ryan air has an infamous reputation for its services. But, however if they can make money then why not. It will certainly give the likes of the regular carriers something to think about, and if their planning to aquire 787's and A350's I would certainly give it go to see if the service is any good. Of course we all know their reputation. But lets say they actually start to provide a really good service. Then we would all be eating humble pie.


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