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Skybus will cease operations effective saturday, April 5
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Message of Werkur737 - Sent 05 Apr 5:10 |
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Going down the road for the fourth time.....
This is the Skybus, will cease operations effective saturday, April 5:
http://www.skybus.com/
Skybus - Announcement
I just wonder when it will stop?
FLX, what do you think about Skybus?
Its an airline i didn't have spotting any plane, i mean taking any photos, because on my time, i simply lost them on another airport, Skybus doesn't come to PHL!
Who any of you could leave your own Skybus photo on this thread to honor the airline?
Sorry again to bring as been recently, only bad news!
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Message of Werkur737 - Sent 05 Apr 8:19 |
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Message of LGHsiao - Sent 05 Apr 19:10 |
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Message of captain bill - Sent 06 Apr 9:58 |
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I think we will see a number of other small to medium size airlines go this summer due to the financial situation around the world. Many investment trusts and banks who are investing in airlines and supporting them very heavily are feeling things very difficult and will be either calling in loans or foreclosing on them altogether.
Many of these airlines at this time need the support of the banks as many of them are LCCs and for many there income is lower than their expenditure and as any housewife will tell you, you can't run a household like that so you therefore can't run an airline like that.
Everyone wants new bright shiny aircraft which Airbus or Boeing are quite happy to supply as they on delivery will get all their money from the bank or leasing company and this is where the problem begins if your fare structure throughout the route network generates less than the running cost of the aircraft, the monthly payment to either the bank or leasing company plus the percentage of overhead expenses that that particular aircraft needs to generate for the survival of the airline.
I have to often listen to people who want to start up a new airline for whatever reason and these people have a good few million £/$ to spend and sadly when all the sums are done on their proposals this new venture would go down the pan in a matter of months. We also had a thread running for quite some time by a young friend who wanted to start an airline from Dundee in Scotland and I was very hard on him because I just wanted him and any others with the same ideas to realise it was not as simple as it appears but in saying that I would hate to knock any enthusiasm out of anyone with ambition but you do need to look at all aspects of the business before starting up which is the easy part but it is the keeping on going that is important.
Last night I was going through some photographs on this site and others of so many UK airlines I have either known or in some way had involvement in who are sadly now gone and it is to me both sad and frightening. Being an old softy i did enjoy the trip down memory lane/
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Message of Werkur737 - Sent 06 Apr 13:59 |
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LGHsiao,
Thanks for the nice photo, i could take some B727-200s of Champion Air, a single B737-700 of Aloha and two ATA aircrafts, but lost Skybus. Your photo is very good.
In this site you are the main photographer at San Diego, as i am at Philadelphia, and both of us will have good memories of these airlines have gone.
Our spotting at our home airports, maybe will have more Southwest's 737s and US Airways' A319s, than anything else!
Captain Bill,
Unfortunately we will see more medium and small airlines go, i just hope not more Americans carriers soon again, cause already had enough of them out of the business and there are a lot of ex-employees with no job with no good future coming soon!
Right, your explanation is very clarify and correctly, i have a wife and kid, she always says to take care of the expenditure and keep as easy as i can do it possible to have some free money as back up, cause you never know about the future needs. For almost all airlines, the incomes, since about last ten years, was very lower than expected, for sure the oil prices since then, rising than ever to a new record high, is the main reason!
Not from many years ago, some airlines such as Delta and Continental had the most of its aircrafts as its own, that was good times. Leasing payments, pardon me, its a shitty idea, just like you may have a rented house to live, so after 30 years you still have nothing. For sure for an aviation business and the new aircraft technologies coming faster than ever, leasing can be better on todays age.
I just remember the old times of aviation, like in the seventies and eighties, that way to hold a business as we may never will see again, unfortunately!
I have 39 years old and flew on old Lockheed Electra II of Brazilian carrier Varig during a vacation trip, was in 1984, one of the best aircraft in terms of cabin comfort space (2+2) i ever had a flight.
Pan Am, TWA, Braniff and even Eastern, that way of manage an airline, for sure you already heard an old pilot talking about that, i think it was the bests times!
I was on a plane since my first year of life, i had my first jump seat exactly with 15 years on an old B707-320B of Pan Am, good memories!
Werkur737
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