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Message of olivelrx - Sent 18 Jun 6:31     We don't know yet!... AIRFLEETS.NET STAFF PHOTO SCREENER User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of Makis - Sent 20 Jun 21:58     It's not seems very hungry. I think is laughing! User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of wayne - Sent 22 Jul 10:32     Good photo! Wayne User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of Gergõ - Sent 22 Jul 17:38     It isn't simple laughing, it is laughter, guffawing. User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of grazy - Sent 23 Jul 5:30     Nah more likely the Boeing has just spat the A380 out,not wanted in its mouth. User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of cathay_boi - Sent 31 Jul 2:31     Go A380!!!! User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of TACACHOKING - Sent 10 Sep 15:31     i love boeing, hate airbus User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of air jamaica fl A340 - Sent 24 Sep 22:28     boeing 747 will choke User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of karlhurst_380 - Sent 28 Sep 13:46     the A380 is the most beutiful Airbus conception ever, not a Boeing lover, but i prefer Airbus ny far. User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of olivelrx - Sent 27 Apr 11:05     Well, after a few months, can we think that Airbus A380 will outdo Boeing? Does someone know how many commands of A 380 are registered at this moment for Airbus Industry? thank you for your answer.... olivier AIRFLEETS.NET STAFF PHOTO SCREENER User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of 330 - Sent 29 Apr 23:53     Nice photo. Go Airbus! User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of mipo72 - Sent 30 Apr 10:09     I think they loved each other and the 747 wants to kiss the A380 Michel. User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of mateusz - Sent 30 Apr 16:08     maybr they r in love User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of otachi - Sent 01 May 3:06     Not always the biggest fish eats the little!! I love the 747 and i can´t imagina the sky without him... User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of Patrick - Sent 01 May 9:44     B747 has proven its competence, lets just wait for the A380 and give it a chance! User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of neisi59 - Sent 01 May 19:19     Run A380, Run!!!!! User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of olivelrx - Sent 01 May 19:25     yes I hope we'll able to make photos in a few time... AIRFLEETS.NET STAFF PHOTO SCREENER User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of right on - Sent 02 May 2:41     I have always liked the B747, but it is already an old lady. a very beautiful old lady. User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of UY707 - Sent 02 May 13:54     Nice shot at the right time and right angle, Congrats Alain User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of klown - Sent 03 May 3:32     The A380 will flop. Airbus needs to sell another 100 units to break even!!!... Don't see that happening!!! Scrap it or go back to the drawing board, just like the their so called new A350!!! Solution - Keep buying the 747 or place your orders now for the new 787!!!... A380 is too Big, Too heavy and Too Ugly!!!! User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of steffen - Sent 03 May 21:16     @ klown, the 747 wasnt a selling hot cake in its beginning period, ill think that airbus will come to its break even over the years, and about the a350, idd kick them back to the drawing board, cause its just an a300 with a330 winglets and engines....bad airbus...bad airbus....:P User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of klown - Sent 04 May 23:07     Steffen, true dat.... I wonder when the A380 will fly though!!! I bet Singapore Airlines and Qantas will be rethinking their firm orders and options now!!! The A350 or the old A300 wont be flying until 2010 now!!!.... Airbus should concentrate on design, technolgy and style, not size and short cuts like using old plane designs and adding new additions to them... Shame Shame Shame.... User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of Trevor - Sent 07 May 18:59     The A380 is a huge technological leap over the B747. So much so that the two aircraft really should not be compared against each other. When the B747 first came out, did we compare it to the likes and performances of the DC-8, B707 or the Convair 880/990 ?. Also I believe it wrong to believe in the propaganda that any one aircraft manufacture may put out. In this instance, Boeing with their original belief that demand for large passenger transport aircraft is limited and will diminish and regional point to point is the only way forward. What happens in the U.S.A. with its airlines and subsidisations is NOT by any means an accurate barometer reflecting true world-wide trends. The A380 makes perfectly sound economical sense for dense routes into and out of main hubs, especially where slots are tight and/or very hard to come by. Parameters and goals within the industry have changed. The real risk factors here are just how fast those parameters and goals are moving, and for the manufacturers to try a stay ahead of the game. A more fair comment would be Airbus carries a risk that a new larger transport from Boeing could eat into its latter sales of the A380 just as Boeing carry's a risk that the A350, being introduced into service 2 years after the B787 may prove to have better operating economics and a lower price tag to boot. Then again, it is known that for both manufacturers, they are looking into opening up production in Russia or in the far east by way of joint ventures rather than to loose future sales to another aircraft manufacturer. If this goes ahead, this will eventually lead to production and assembly jobs looses in Europe and North America. Whether looking right now at a factory new Airbus or Boeing aircraft, we tend to overlook the percentage of parts that are manufactured outside of Europe or North America and how that percentage has been steadily increasing. The A380 is a marvelous aircraft and will I am sure be around for many years to come. How many are eventually sold will depend on what is available to challenge it in terms of economics and price-tag and how soon that challenger would be available. all the best, Trevor User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of jamesxxi - Sent 08 May 0:29     I don`t think aircraft industry needs an aircraft as A380. because it only can flight to the biggest airport, so no one charter airline can use this huge aircraft. Airbust and Boeing should think togehter with airlines give more space for passenger into aircraft (in coach), because day by day, they make aircraft with less space for people. Airbust told that virgin tought put a jacuzzi or spa into A380. But i think it is only for first class aircraft. What about passanger in coach?. User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of Trevor - Sent 09 May 23:14     Hi James, it is not a question of the aircraft industry designing an aircraft first, then second trying to find customers to purchase it. Nor is it accurate to comment that only the biggest airports can accommodate the A380. Another issue to bear in mind is that it is not the aircraft manufacturer that decides how many seats to squeeze in but the airlines themselves. Take a look for yourself at the various existing aircraft in service now directly on the manufacturers websight. Then take a look at the seating plans from the various airlines who have that particular model in service. You will find a variance between the carriers in (a) how far apart each row of seats are, in economy that can vary from 28 inch pitch to 34 inch pitch and (b) how many actual seats are in the row itself, for example a 2+4+2 row gets squeezed to a 3+3+3 row, thus gaining an extra seat for the operator. I believe the real salvation for economy/coach will come as and when governments legislate as to what are the minimums, as with some carriers they really do squeeze to passengers in like sardines ! all the best, Trevor User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of neil36 - Sent 09 May 20:08     That ugly thing from Airbus (A380) will NEVER replace or oust the B747.I am a Boeing fan through and through and never have liked what Airbus has produced ( unfortunately I have flown on some of them User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of jetlag - Sent 10 May 12:31     A GREAT UNION OF TWO RIVALS. User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of NJanga - Sent 10 May 12:44     I think that americans have the tendency to hate everything that's not produced in the US and that this hate is normally based on ignorance of what really is being produced abroad. We believe that the USA is the WORLD and we totally ignore the rest. I've read on this forum things like 'I HATE AIRBUS'. How can someone hate AIRBUS? Based on what? I remember when the first B747 came out, it also was a very ugly thing. We are all saying things that we really don't know what's it all about. I, for sure cannot say I hate airbus, because I know the facts about Airbus and I've been traveling around for quiet a while. Just check how many american airline companies use a wide range of airbus aircrafts. eg American Airlines. Would they have so many airbus in their fleet if airbus was really so bad? The thing is, we don't like others to know or produce more than us. I would say, WELCOME AIRBUS 380. A totaly new technology and the first in its class. And I'm sure it will be a very confortable aircraft. Not like these trans-atlantic flights I've experienced on couach with Delta or AA on their B767 which is an extremely unconfortable aircraft. User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of 787DreamGal - Sent 10 May 18:20     I agree with NJanga. But its also just competition. We as people love to see competition and be apart of it, thats how this whole country goes 'round. I personally love the 737NG and the 767-400ER. But Trevor is right, it is the Airlines that choose the seat configuration. But when did it get so bad to be close to someone? We cram into busses and subways all the time and don't complain. But anyways, I was under the impression that the A380 could only land on a long enough runway and most airports didn't meet the requirement? I know that a runways were just finished in Cincinnati and Atlanta that are longer, and I thought this was to accomadate the A380. I was also wondering about the wing span, for example a 777 can only fit at 2 gates in Cincinnati (if there are other planes parked around it). I would think that the focus wouldn't be so much on a bigger aircraft to cram people into, but a more efficient one. It is a shame that Song is no more, for the 787 would have been beyond perfect for such a fun airline. User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of Trevor - Sent 13 May 18:41     It is sad when unqualified hate rears its ugly head, fuelled on nothing more than hear-say ignorance and propaganda. Anyone who takes the time to study aviation history and the development of passenger airliners over the past 50 years can't miss how important healthy competition has been and continues to be. Our world has become smaller and travel by plane quieter, more fuel efficient, environment friendly, and very importantly safer because of it. I am always bemused by those who proclaim to  hate  Airbus just because its not American or Boeing simply because it is not European. It is so immature. Fact is, if you stripped a modern day Boeing airliner of its European parts and technologies or an Airbus of its North America parts and technologies neither aircraft would be usable. Then what of the others parts produced from outside of Europe and North America ? Ignorance doesn't appear to acknowledge how integrated our world has become, yet alone the quantum leaps in aviation just over the past 10 years alone. It certainly is naive to condemn an aircraft manufacturer and accuse them of bad design just because cramped seating, chosen and installed by the particular carrier they flew with. Air travel will continue to grow and large passenger aircraft will continue to play an important part. Right now the next new entry into the arena for this category is the Airbus A380. It is an incredible advancement and achievement for today, just as the Boeing 747 was when it came into service in the 70's. Will it signify the end of the Boeing 747 ? In my opinion yes, because the equivalent from Boeing will be vastly different in its construction, materials and technologies, thus by comparison to the current 747's in service, making it a totally different aircraft. The only thing that links the A380 with the B747 is  large transport  that is how vastly different these two aircraft are. On the propaganda front, in my opinion Boeing is sometimes it's own worst enemy. I can remember how not than long ago it was very vocal about twin engined wide-body aircraft for trans-Atlantic and trans-Pacific and how it would never catch on and it and the Airbus consortium was doomed to failure. Then within 10 years Boeing came out with the 767, which lead to the 777. Now look at where we are today, both the 767 & 777 will be replaced tomorrow by the 787 family. The 777 is a relatively new aircraft itself, but already technology in design and engines has advanced so fast, with simple stretches on the 787 design it proves to be more economical to purchase and operate than the 777. No doubt the 787 family will be a commercial success for Boeing, but rest assured, for Boeing fans I can not see them giving up on the larger size wide bodied aircraft because the demand/market is there. I am sure with what is on the drawing board right now there will be some additional stretches done to increase the number of passengers that can be carried. However, for now in this category, the Airbus A380 is in a league of its own. It is not something on the drawing board, but an aircraft in production, with firm orders and several options, currently undergoing its final flight tests before entering commercial service. From a passenger point of view, it will certainly be interesting to see who has the most preferred interior configurations and designs. Yes, there is a lot of talk about bedrooms for first class, Jacuzzi's and showers etc, or a gym downstairs etc ( as there are 3 levels to play with on this aircraft ). There was similar talk when the 747 first came out. What we saw there was a few mainline carriers have a bar up stairs, which was later replaced with seating, which equals that all important revenue for the carriers bottom line. With the continued high price of fuel, whilst these luxuries are certainly possible, I think a lot will simply not materialise into reality between the drawing board and the aircraft itself. As they say time will tell, and we will not have that long a wait to find out. all the best, Trevor User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of Trevor - Sent 20 May 4:12     The webcast of the A380 landing at London Heathrow, also interesting commentary. http://82.108.51.234/baa/baa.wvx User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of Sam Drucker - Sent 20 May 4:25     Trevor - The 777 is not being replaced by the 787. They are aircraft in two different classes (size). The 777 family continues to be expanded with recent additions like the 777-300ER and 777-200LR. Many airlines still have this airplane on order, some in addition to the 787. It is true however, that the 787 is seen as a sucessor to the 767 family. User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of AirJer56 - Sent 20 May 16:06     To all......both companies provide aircraft that serve the world well. There is much room in the marketplace for both, and the ebb and flow of the market will rule forever. Both companies provide very satifisfying jobs for thousands of people and we should be grateful. I have been an air traffic controller for a few decades and have seen aviation do well for the world and it will continue to do so no matter what our personal opinions are. User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of frag04 - Sent 20 May 17:51     It doesn't matter if the B747 will eat the A380 or the other way round, what really matters is:- will the A380 make airlines a profit,will it pay for its keep and in the long run will the maintanance costs be still reasonable after 10 years or so, as its costing the aviation sector millions just to make changes to their airports to fit it in,plus other amendants that are needed to cope with such a large aircraft. or is it going to be another white elephant that nobody wants? over to you lot!!! dave User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of YYZ man - Sent 21 May 3:12     Nice pic, that was a good airshow User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of Trevor - Sent 22 May 17:58     In many prime location airports, there are limits on future expansion possibilities and due congestion, restrictions on increasing slots. Yet, air travel itself continues to steadily grow. This is a problem for both the airport and the carrier. A way around these problems is to put larger aircraft on select routes. For the airport, larger aircraft carrying more passengers and cargo helps them to continue growth, where otherwise they would be slot restricted. For the carrier in many instances this is the answer for them to provide more seats to meet with demand. In some instances, this means the carrier can save on a slot as the A380 will cover for what they previously handled with 2 flights, thereby freeing up an aircraft and a slot to provide them with a much needed expansion possibility. As I see it, it is an equal investment for the future of both the airport and the carrier. In regard to maintenance costs for the new breeds of aircraft coming into service between now and over the next 10 years, (A380, B787, A350 ), whether you look at the avionics, the engines, or the overall construction, technology has advanced so much this decade, I can not seeing this being an issue because the new aircraft will cost less to maintain than former models ( B747, B767, B777, A330, A340 ). In terms of both passenger and cargo the A380 is a quantum leap forward. all the best, Trevor User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of M-BASS™ - Sent 10 Jun 20:27     Nice one!! Time will tell if Boeing is hungry enough for that. User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of Trevor - Sent 11 Jun 17:08     As I see it, Boeing are more than hungry enough. Right now they have a few problems as their 787 unavoidably will eat into the 777 family production and eventually kill it off. Also, last I heard was that the 787 has encounter some teething difficulties, resulting in a higher than acceptable rate of bubbles in the composit fusalge than was anticipated. This has to be looked into and re-done because without, FAA approval would be denied. So, at the moment, all available attention must focus on the 787 to ensure its performance lives upto its specs. That is no easy task. Once 787 bugs have been worked out and this family is firmly under control and in production, (and just as they A380 was delayed you might some delay to the 787 entering service ) you will see a new larger transport come into production to compete head to head with the A380. I can not see Boeing not coming up with anything and allowing ANA, BA, Cathay etc all to slip away. Several of the current 747-400 series have already had preliminary talks with Boeing, but they are not in the immediate market to purchase right now. In my opinion this gives Boeing a little breathing space to concentrate on its 787 programme, as it can not afford for that to fail, plus Airbus it hot on its heels with the competitor A350 all the best, Trevor User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of klown - Sent 13 Jun 12:31     Boeing All The Way.... The Next Generation 747-800 even looks more fresh and sexier than that UGLY A380... The 747 will always be the Queen of the skies.... But the question is with all the delays when will it fly or will it ever fly!!!.... No wonder Singapore Airlines, Qantas has the shits and Emirates has just cancelled 2 A380F and will convert that Freighter aircraft too the new 747-800... Wise choice Emirates... User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of donkey - Sent 13 Jun 19:28     A380 is better than the crap Boeing User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of Trevor - Sent 13 Jun 19:50     Klown - The reason for a large chunk of the delays on the A380 is widely known within the industry is due Singapore Airlines specification changes. Emirates switched 2 x A380F to passenger as there carrying forecast for growth were revised. The 747-800 in passenger falls way short in capacity of the A380. So Emirates decision is perfectly understandable. Why on earth would you try and twist fact ? When Boeing has ironed out its bugs from its 787 programme, then I am sure you will see a knew large transport design from Boeing to compete in terms of numbers carried with the A380. As of now Boeing has missed out on the early sales within this catagory, just as Airbus has missed out on the early sales with the A350 to the B787. Nothing more nothing less. As for Qantas being nervous, all I have heard is that they are anxious everything goes well and concern about costs to equip being slightly over budget. However, remember it is the airline that chooses what type of seats to install IFE system etc, and if costs have gone up over the past 2 years due increases in raw materials, that's life, it happens. Consider if the 747-800 were right for the market and the right size for the carriers that the market requires, how come there are no advance orders in passanger configeration from the large operators of the 747-400 series for future replacement or growth ? Why are they holding back ? Yet it is known they have been in talks with Boeing. For these operators in round two of the large transport sales, it will also be to their advantage to have an equivilent Boeing to the A380 range. Boeing knows this also. Without the A380 you would not have the 747-800, but this is not a true competitor to the A380. Wait and see what happens in the next couple of years. What can I say, it is the nature of the business and without such competition aviation in general would not have made the huge leaps it has over the past decade. all the best, Trevor User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of Trevor - Sent 26 Jun 19:43     Boeing considers stretched 747-8 as challenge to A380 From Friday June 23, 2006 see the short article at:- http://www.atwonline.com/news/story.html?storyID=5493 User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of N196UA - Sent 27 Jun 5:40     Eat the A380! Eat the A380! User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of olivelrx - Sent 26 Jul 10:44     Hi, I'm agree with you Trevor... You are a very good analyst!! Friendly Olivier AIRFLEETS.NET STAFF PHOTO SCREENER User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of olivelrx - Sent 30 Jul 17:34     News: The A380 will be present at the Paris AirShow in June 2007 (Le Bourget Airport). The plane will make a new show... Take your camera...!!! AIRFLEETS.NET STAFF PHOTO SCREENER User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of 74823 - Sent 31 Jul 6:41     That is a really cool picture. User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of neil36 - Sent 02 Aug 12:05     I am a Boeing fan through and through and my favourite is and always will be b747.I hate airbus ( unfortunately flown in them )I dont like the idea and never will like the idea of having just a joystick to control the plane.A380 is an ugly,fat piece of waste scrap metal.Boeing is  Simply the Best   and ALWAYS will be. User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of norb - Sent 19 Aug 19:59     I think the 747 just wants a piece of tail......lol User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of olivelrx - Sent 17 Sep 12:28     Does anyone have informations about commands of A380? In fact, i would like news about commands of A 380, and which company will received the first one? Kind regards Olivier AIRFLEETS.NET STAFF PHOTO SCREENER User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of olivelrx - Sent 26 Oct 11:07     fantastic view of the A380 cockpit: http://www.linternaute.com/savoir/diaporama/airbus_a380/savoir-plus.shtml see you soon Oliver AIRFLEETS.NET STAFF PHOTO SCREENER User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of mj - Sent 26 Oct 17:46     love boeing hate aribus, by the way trever the A350 start up price is much higher than boeing`s 787.The A380 is one of the Ugliest thing i have ever seen in the skies athough Airbus do know how to make ugly plaines,no wonder they dont admit to their mistakes they trie and blame a second party.747 for me she`s always welcome.Remember their isn`t an airbus aircraft desined and build withought copying from other manufactures. mj User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of olivelrx - Sent 31 Oct 9:13     I'm surprised, so many people hate Airbus!!! Do you only fly on Boeing planes? Personnally, i enjoy flying on A340, this is the best for me. But that's right that my favorite is the B747 for its design!! olivier AIRFLEETS.NET STAFF PHOTO SCREENER User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of Trevor - Sent 11 Nov 21:27     Mj - there is nothing worse than having ignorance forced upon us. Re-read what you have written. Seriously consider who is copying who here ? What came first the BAC 1-11 or the Douglas DC-9 ? Does one really copy of the other ? How about the VC10 vs the IL-62 ? Or the B707 vs. The DC-8 ? Then stop and pause for as while and ask yourself, what aircraft exactly did the A300 actually copy ? Without the A300 development, manufacture and entry into service, do you think Boeing would have even considered a wide-bodied twin engine aircraft .... the B767 ? Without the B767 or A340/330 would we have had the B777 ? Are we really talking outright copying or taking something that works efficiently and redesigning it to work more efficiently with perhaps double the load carrying capacity or able to travel double the distance ? If you take any Boeing aircraft and stripped it of its European Components, or or you took any Airbus aircraft and stripped that of its American components, would they still be able to fly ? How many other countries manufacture and design for these two aircraft manufacturing companies ? Do you have this strange belief that the Boeing 747 was perfect from day 1, totally free of any design faults ? Do you honestly think Boeing has a perfect track record with its aircraft ? Do you know how many Aircraft Boeing or Airbus have sold at  LIST PRICE  over the past 1 year, 5 years. 10 years, 20 years ? Sorry, for me  List Price  is just a number where the manufacturer indicates a price for negotiations to start at. There has been much controversy over this issue with each manufacturer accusing the other of selling aircraft below cost. At the end of the day you have to ask yourself mj is it healthy to have competition ? Is it better to delay entry of an aircraft into service, thus ensuring all the bugs have been worked out or simply put it into service with  patches  followed by additional patches further down the road, taking  calculated  risks of cause that the likelihood of a possible loss of a frame is remote. Countless times before such  known  faults only tend to come to light with fatalities. If you study carefully with the A380, you will see and understand that many changes have happened due requirements of the  customer  and this has been explained countless times before, if you move as in reposition one thing from point A to point B, often that can have consequences, i.e. a knock-on effect with something else. So the A380 is delayed in entering commercial service, and it is costing Airbus a hefty price, thus meaning more A380's will have to be sold for them to break even. I have no doubts they will achieve this. Personally for me I would rather it be this way and it be a safe aircraft from day 1, operating how the customers want it to and kitted out how the customer wants. Remember Airbus got a bad rap with the A340-600 and Sir. Richard Branson said he would never be the launch customer for a new aircraft ever again. That did not mean the A346 was a bad aircraft, it just came with a lot of minute bugs that had to be worked out. Again with new aircraft this is not something unique to Airbus, but effects all manufacturers. Look at what happen with Embraer and Jetblue for another recent example. So mj think about what you wrote because others could equally argue that if Boeing did not  copy  and learn from the mistakes of others who were open and technically informative about issues, the 707 would never have entered into commercial service. Without the A330 would Boeing have dared to venture into the 777 or even the 787, which as you know many airlines are pushing for stretches on the same, taking it into the carrying capacity range of the 777 and threatening the 777's future. Even Boeing themselves are still in talks with several airlines on an additional stretch the the 748 already proposed and there is a lot of pressure to redesign with greater use of composits. So it could well be what ever the final design approved is, it will look completely different to the original 747 family. Perhaps to others compared to the A380 it will look either like it is copying it or just that it is ugly. All the best Trevor User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of cat70fr - Sent 12 Nov 17:06     Why Boeing lovers should thank Airbus? Because Airbus put a tough competition on Boeing, and Boeing needed to do a big move to stay at the top. Without Airbus, Boeing would have not launched the 787 programme! Why the A380 is necessary? Because many routes like Europe<->Asia are overcrowded by overbooked 744s. Count the number of 744s leaving Singapore or Bangkok to join Europe at night, and you will understand why Singapore Airlines (!) and Qantas are so impatient to receive their A380s. Eric (plane lover, not only Airbus, but also Boeing and all the others !) User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of badboys777 - Sent 13 Nov 9:24     WOW this is a great pic... keep them coming! User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of olivelrx - Sent 18 Nov 9:09     Thank you Badboys777, I agree with cat70fr. In fact Airbus put a tough competition on Boeing. Even if orders of A380 is late, i think that Airbus is the most innovate company in aeronautic industry, thanks to electrically driven machine. Boeing need a such competitor to invent too... kind regards AIRFLEETS.NET STAFF PHOTO SCREENER User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of Werkur737 - Sent 20 Nov 0:26     Looks like the 747 is hungry, wants some cargo! AIRFLEETS.NET STAFF PHOTO SCREENER User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of olivelrx - Sent 06 Mar 15:28     I'm afraid by all problems for Airbus Company... Difficulties for A 380 and A 350?.... Why a such project, is becoming a very bad dream? Sniff... AIRFLEETS.NET STAFF PHOTO SCREENER User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of Werkur737 - Sent 06 Mar 19:24     I think will not eat, just awaiting for a battle! UPS cancelled its order for 10 A380F, because the delaying of program, and airbus is diverting workers to passenger version. Like FeDex, UPS is confident that Airbus will not delivery the A380F on schedules! AIRFLEETS.NET STAFF PHOTO SCREENER User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of olivelrx - Sent 06 Mar 19:40     Yes, it's true! I don't understand why Airbus won't respect the delay of program!! They will deliver airplanes with a such delay that air company will fly with Boeing! AIRFLEETS.NET STAFF PHOTO SCREENER User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of captain bill - Sent 06 Mar 20:55     I am led to believe that Airbus are keeping their customers and potential customers up to date with all developments. This is a massive program for Airbus just as when Boeing were developing the 747 and lets make no mistakes Boeing had their problems too. Can I refer everyone back to Trevor's message of November 11 which is one of the best threads I have read on this site and take onboard what he says and then we can all moove on to other things. User profil Private message Suggest deletion   Message of thies - Sent 07 Mar 15:48     What petty garble ! Boeing had the advantage of flattening a huge tract of NW forest near Everett to build a facility, that could house the entire production of the 747. Airbus, due to it's rules of involving everybody in the European aviation industry, is forced to allow the A380 Megasize parts to travel on barges, through narrow country roads on low-loaders and other obstacles. One small hitch will affect the assembly line and cause further delays. And are the airports really ready ? I'm thinking of my own home port, YMML, Melbourne International. On the Gate side it is magnificent and very efficient, but once you reach the Road side 550 passengers will be left at the mercy of taxis, busses and private cars that end up on a freeway choked with morning commuters. NO TRAINLINE ! unlike European airports built at the same time. Sure, at a time of global warming the efficient use of aircraft should determine our main thoughts, which will ultimately scrap the front section hype for more seats. Remember the upstairs lounges and piano bars in the 747s and DC-10s ? Gone. The stairway in the 747-400 lead straight up to another seating compartment. But if the A380 is here to stay lets hope, that Emirates will keep their plans to fit a Playground into the back with a slide between the floors. (And an ejector toilet seat for  Mile-High-Clubbers ...) User profil Private message Suggest deletion

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