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captain bill

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  Topic: ASH CLOUD COMPEMSATION - Sent 23 Apr 7:08

There is a lot of talk in Europe about the National Governments who closed their airspace, on many occasions needlessly ? , paying compensation to the airlines affected for loss of earnings. The events of the past ten days or so has cost many airlines a lot of money with many of them now on a financial knife edge. The questions are;

1. Should the European Airlines affected by their government's decision to close air space be compensated ?

2. What about other airlines flying into Europe from the Far/Mid East, Australia, Africa, USA and Canada who also were affected by the same decision, should they be allowed to seek compensation ?

3. There is one large U.K. and one large Irish budget style airlines who have said they will seek compensation from their government but these airlines have also European bases so if they do intend seeking compensation should they also seek redress for loss of earnings from the Swiss, Spanish, Italian and where ever else the have a base in Europe from that government ?

The whole compensation issue seems to get worse the more the legal eagles look into it and just as the volcano rumbles on so will the aviation aftermath.

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captain bill

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  Topic: ASH CLOUD COMPEMSATION - Sent 23 Apr 7:09

The M in the title should be a N

I'v had a hard week - sorry


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Lukasz

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  Topic: ASH CLOUD COMPEMSATION - Sent 23 Apr 9:07

If the EU, or governments decide to pay the airlines, it would open up a whole can of whoopass on them. What about hotels, flight attendants (who no doubt were not paid for the 6 days of work by likes of FR or EZY), airport shops, aircoach operators, and many more.

Natural disasters are a part of life, and business must be able to accommodate them. What about bus or rail operators who cannot get revenue for days or weeks when there is snow.

Separate story is whether the closure was necessary or not, but they simply never knew, and the only way to prevent an accident happening somewhere was to blanket the whole airspace.

PM of Iceland warned they have a much bigger volcano which has a history of erupting 'twice a century'. It last erupted in 1918 so it is way overdue. It might be a really big one in the next few years. The governments better get enough weather balloons to measure the ash density, rather than relying only on a few guys running a weather simulation.


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Mabel

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  Topic: ASH CLOUD COMPEMSATION - Sent 23 Apr 15:54

If the European governments were to start offering financial compensation to airlines whose operations were disrupted by an act of God, it would open up a Pandora's box. The precedent would be in place, and then every business in the entire EU would start demanding bailout money whenever their operations are disrupted, for whatever reason...act of God, labour strike, mechanical breakdown, economic downturn and so forth. Whenever government dips its grubby little hands into big business it never works out well. The U.S. government tried bailing out the automotive industry and banking sector 2 years ago...it went over very poorly with the public (it was the single most important reason the Republicans lost power in 2008), the recipient corporations largely mismanaged the handout money, and today corporate America is none the better for it.

Does anyone here actually think that if the EU were to offer FR a bailout because 40% of its operations were disrupted FR would spend the money to improve its operations? No way! The money would go straight into Mr O'Leary's bank account. Same thing would happen with any other airline...the money would go towards executive pay.

Perhaps a wiser solution would be if the government were to offer a small monetary compensation or tax credit to INDIVIDUAL PASSENGERS whose schedules were disrupted by the eruption.


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  Topic: ASH CLOUD COMPEMSATION - Sent 26 Apr 22:33

No government compensation at all. What a terrible idea. What is next? Business is off because of a snowstorm and grocers and cabbies apply for a grant? No thank you. The resulting bureaucracy would create lots of jobs, but a bad idea in all. The idea is terribly American, though. I'm surprised our Delta, Untied, or American don't already have their fat fists out for the dole.


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